Jobs of the Future
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Introduction and Welcome
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: All right. Welcome everyone. Thank you for joining another episode of Future Proof Uses podcast f yourself. My name is Dan Yu, as always here with my colleagues Aaron Makelky and John Lovig. Greetings, good to see you guys.
Emerging Job Titles in AI
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Uh, today we are talking about, um, uh, jobs that didn't exist even just a couple years ago, and what are kind of the underpinnings, uh, of that and, uh, where do we see the trends going?
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Um, Aaron, you were just mentioning, um, chief Automate Automation Officer. The CAO, it's kind of a new thing, I guess, right? So, uh, what, what, what could that Lovigok like?
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Yeah. Well, I, I do. I've seen companies that have hired for formal positions called Chief AI Officer, where
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm-hmm.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: gonna bring [00:01:00] somebody in. It's a leadership role, and you're gonna figure out where AI overlays into the business and the operations. One of the, one of the other versions of that is business owners saying, Hey, I built these systems.
Automation and Business Operations
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aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Let's say you have a CRM content scheduling, an onboarding process and a payment processor, they're in different apps that don't talk to each other, and a human has to go manually, take data from here and paste it there and then rewrite it, they're going, Hey. Is there someone who could make this, talk to that and then connect all the dots so that I don't have to have a human doing it. That's, you know, business ops, but from an automation perspective, that's something that I don't think anybody was doing two years ago. 'cause the tools didn't exist and people didn't know you could do that maybe with Zapier. Um, but now with protocols, I watched a guy, he connected Claude in the chat.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: He could order a pizza to his house from [00:02:00] Domino's. how'd you get that system to talk to this? And that's what automation experts or maybe a chief automation officer could do for a business.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: For those of us in in New York or who grew up with good pizza, Domino's is in quotes there for pizza folks, it's cheesy bread,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That's right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: delicious cheesy bread. It's good, but uh, I don't know if I would call pizza as much as I call it, although their thin crust is quite good.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: But we digress. We digress. So, um.
Generative AI Roles
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Uh, and some of the other, uh, jobs that, uh, John, you've seen as a recruiter, what are some of the interesting titles that you've seen just kind of crop up over the past few months to a year?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah, I mean, I was placing, what, what was it called? It was called, um, generative AI Associates.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That's right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Uh, and they were English majors and linguists who were. writing for AI
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: [00:03:00] correcting prompts and responses. Uh, they were, um, writing, um, uh, annotating images, things like that. I think one of the images that on their assessment was like a, a cow with a, a veil on. They had to describe that. So, uh, you know, there are people who are training ai, uh, they don't use the term. As much, uh, anymore. But, uh, prompt engineering isn't really a term as often because it's less engineering and more about writing.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: So it's almost like the confluence of, uh, you know, the empathy and EQ that comes from an English major and then dropping that person into an AI kind of a company. And then, and then now, now, was that just an English.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: No, of course Dan knows this because we, uh, we [00:04:00] worked together on this project, but, um, no, it was across, uh, every possible language you could think of, as well as, uh, they got to a point where they started their hiring people to actually write, instead of just, uh, foreign languages or English actual code, uh, and correct prompts for coding.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: And so, uh, the, the depth of the work is seeming to, to continue to, to grow.
Ethics and Implications of AI
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Um, but this also, you know, has the ethics, you know, kind of question. Right? And we've heard of, uh, roles, you know, AI ethicist, right? And so what, what do you think the implications of that are?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: I think the fear is or, or my fear from a. Job perspective is AI seems very well poised to replace a Lovigt of entry level roles, and then the question [00:05:00] becomes, if we don't have entry level roles anymore, what's entry level? How do people get experienced to become the person who oversees the ai? If you don't have the junior experience. Um, what's that actually Lovigok like? How's that manifest? And I don't think people have been thinking about that enough. And, you know, AI is great and it's hyper efficient, and I Lovigve using it. It helps me with my job every day. And I think it will only improve the life of a recruiter. But we displacing too many people to survive as an economy? Are is it creating enough jobs to, to offset the jobs? It's displacing and that, I don't know.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah, I mean there, there's the, um, the idea that you have to make a mistake, right? To learn, right? And so if you're, if you're just depending on. AI to feed you the answer, which actually may or may not be perfect for every situation, right? So then how do you learn and make those mistakes? Aaron, you know, you've seen, [00:06:00] uh, you've also seen some new, new roles, uh, some pretty, uh, avant-garde, uh, uh, job titles out there recently.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Um, you know, so, uh, I'd Lovigve to hear from you, your perspective. You know, since you are a future proof use AI expert.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Yeah, I'm not an expert. I'm a practitioner. I'll share one we haven't talked about, uh,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: expert though.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: I'm, I'm honored, uh, in the medical field.
AI in the Medical Field
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aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Here's one that I didn't know existed. This is probably two years ago. Uh, a medical provider left practicing medicine to work for a textbook company, the role is we AI generate the copy and the text. You are the human in the Lovigop who makes edits and checks off, so she's not training a model. She's curating the output before it gets published to their website or their textbook or
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: It's like qa.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: it's, And she's like a, she's like a copywriter. But the first version did not come [00:07:00] from the intern down the hall or the entry level position that John alluded to. The AI model spits out the first draft and then her job is to polish it, fact check it, clean it up, and then hit submit on it. That's one that did not exist two years ago. 'cause companies didn't have the tools to make that work.
Vibe Coding and Marketing
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aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: In the, in the tech space, you know, the, the trend, and it all depends on what platform you spend your time on with social media, vibe, coding, and vibe. Uh, marketing is a thing, and I, I will confess, I actively participate in those, but it's basically this idea that, let's say with code, you used to have to type in Python, or if you wanna build a website, you have to type in HTML. You can now code in English by just saying, I want a website that looks like this and has these colors and this section here, and you put that into an AI code assistant.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: So the most popular ones are probably Cursor Windsurf, which just [00:08:00] got bought by OpenAI, the company that owns chat, GPT. Um, bolt, bubble, Lovable.dev There's a bunch of 'em where you can basically code. Now with English and Vibe coders now are like, well, I've always had an idea for an app, but I'm not a developer and I'm not gonna pay 40, $50,000 for someone to deveLovigp an app just for fun. Well, in an hour or two on a laptop, you can have a working app or a website. in the marketing space, it's the same thing. It's like, I can create this whole marketing plan from the vibes. You know, just describe, drop in screenshots. It's wild. You can screenshot Apple's website and say, build me the same aesthetics and typography and iconography, but make it for dog food.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Drop in a screenshot. You will have a prototype of a website just from the vibes. And we've seen companies. hiring people that know vibe coding or vibe marketing tools. 'cause you can iterate on things so much faster with ai.[00:09:00]
AI Content Creation and IP Issues
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: So do you think that, um, uh, people and companies are getting over the idea that if you're using AI to generate images, right, you know, those images are based on. Other images. Right. And so do you think they're, they're just easily getting past that, you know, it's, it seems like, you know, with this AI content creation or, or AI filmmaking that, um, you know, that they all have to be based on something and, you know, is there an IP question here?
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Yeah, I actually asked this question on a live stream to a CEO and, and he did not answer it. Um, what happens if I create a marketing content from an AI avatar? It's, it's not a selfie video of me, it's a selfie video, but it's of an AI avatar that I prompted. Who owns that? The, the short answer that I can give right now, there are companies that are saying no ai, but I think those are fewer and [00:10:00] further between than it was a year ago. And for every one of those, there's more of them saying, you know, how to automate that process, show us, teach our team, build us an automation where they're
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: for that. and it's a definitely a net gain in, in the direction of incorporating AI versus trying to put it behind,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: the. Filter. Yeah.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Lovigok at, uh, Duolingo. They just, they recently announced that they're AI first, right? So, I don't know if we talked about this last episode, but I feel like we did. AI first. They're no Lovignger hiring contractors if they don't need to.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yep.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And do you
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah. Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: which CEO came out the same style email this week was Fiverr. And he
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: wow.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: you like including me, the CEO of Fiverr. My current role is going to be replaced by ai. So basically you can think I'm a jerk for telling you this, or you can start learning how to use it, but if you don't, you will not have a job.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And he was saying like, even me as the [00:11:00] CEO of Fiverr.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, that's, people have been saying why, why have a CEO who has to make tough decisions when you can have something that's unbiased to it instead? Uh, but then, then that starts to broach even more ethical questions because we are already living in a society where the shareholder matters the most. So it's like, what are we going to do when AI cares mostly about shareholders and they're gonna be like, replace everyone with me, Skynet.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That's right.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Well, and here's the AI ethicist role,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm-hmm.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: John is the AI ethicist for our company, and I'm the marketing person, I say, I have this whole new marketing campaign I wanna launch on TikTok and Instagram reels, and it's AI generated. UGC content. So it used to be find a college kid who took a selfie video like, oh, check out this makeup product link and bio to buy it. Well, you can make an eight second clip of a fake person holding your real product now. So it Lovigoks like [00:12:00] user generated content, UGC, but it's ai. I can make that. John, you're the company's AI ethicist. Should we do this whole marketing campaign with basically AI avatars impersonating young, good Lovigoking. You know, females that use our product or should we pay 10 times as much money to have real humans shoot those same videos?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah. I know
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, I mean, it, it, it, it could be deemed as false advertising. Right. You know, if you, if you're saying that, you know, you know, I'm using this product. Right. Well, you're not really if you're an AI avatar. Right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: it's already bad enough with influencers today
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That's true.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: probably don't actually use the, they get paid to say they do now. Now you're coming in with not even a human. Uh, it's, it's tough. That's a tough call, and I'm, I'm sure, I think the, the main thing is no one, the government's not really talking about it enough about [00:13:00] legislating, you know, rules and restrictions like you should, say, I don't care if you're using AI to do something like that, except I want to know that it's ai.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Okay, so here's one. Let's say we do 20 TikTok videos this week, and they're AI avatars. Are we watermarking it in the copy or are we saying asterisk, this is not a human?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Hmm.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: we putting a disclaimer in our Lincoln Bio page that says, not all of
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: material contains real humans like. how do we, how do we
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: that and be transparent, but still say, well, for a 10th the price, we got 500 times the number of videos.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: 'cause we could just generate them
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, so, so go ahead.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: oh, there's a, there's a movie, uh, out, I can't remember. It was a while, a couple, a year or two ago where someone generated an AI version of them, of an AI and, [00:14:00] uh, a celebrity. And had to, fess up to the fact that that wasn't a real person because it was an AI avatar. And I could just see like, what happens when we don't know who's human and who's not anymore. Like what's to stop us from creating whole movies? And then now we have, you know, AI Tom Cruise, you know, that's, that's terrifying.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: own identity anymore?
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: well, so, so, so here, so here's the question, right? You know, it's, we're we're asking ethical questions here.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: there.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: We're talking about self imposing guardrails, right? And expecting others to also self-impose guardrails.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Should we even think about guardrails if we know potential competition or. More broadly, other countries where the culture can be [00:15:00] completely different.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Their ethics, you know, their ethics are their ethics. Their morals are their morals. And so let's say they say, we don't care. Right? We're gonna make it all, you know, we're gonna make it all fake.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, we already have interference in our politics, in our elections from other countries.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Absolutely. Right?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: when they have AI avatars that Lovigok like us?
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: try and manipulate us. So then it come, comes to a broader perspective of our platforms. Our social platforms are gonna have to have ways of detecting these things too, and having rules and regulations around it to protect us as as as individuals.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: 'cause we can be manipulated so easily that way.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Exactly where I'm going with this. So are those new jobs that are gonna be, uh,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: gonna, gonna come up because a human has to make the call, right? Even if the AI is gonna be doing, detecting the other ai. And so they, it's gonna be like a battle of ai that they're gonna be, uh, [00:16:00] fighting with each other, but then still doesn't a human have to make the call, like, thumbs up, thumbs down on whether or not that's should be alLovigwable
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: is the human gonna be more valuable than than the technoLoviggy though?
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Probably.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Yep. And
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: I mean, Lovigok, Lovigok at Grock. What Grock did the other like the other week.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Here's a concrete example of that. When you go to upLovigad a YouTube video, even a short. They have a box where they require you to check is there an AI generated scene or person that appears to be real but isn't? Like, are you
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Oh, that's great.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: to make a human Lovigoking avatar? I have never upLovigaded content with that.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: I know a Lovigt of people who do, whether it's an AI avatar of themselves or of like a fake UGC creator. Uh, so I don't know. I mean, they must use an automated process to review those and say like, oh, that was against our terms of service. You did a AI version of John and you're not John, and [00:17:00] you didn't check that box, so we're gonna bLovigck your account or restrict your upLovigads. But it's, that's just because their company has that policy. So, I don't know, maybe they have an AI ethicist who, who advise them like, this is what we should do with our content, but there's no government agency or law that requires that. So one of the arguments is. if no other platforms do it, why would we?
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: It gives us a disadvantage. And the same thing with AI models. You guys have heard this with intellectual property laws in America. Our models, I would hope, would folLovigw those. I know they don't. But in China, when deep seek goes, they're gonna crawl and scrape every American website and every paid newspaper subscription and train their models on it. Are they gonna have an advantage over us because we tried to protect intellectual property and, and keep things human.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right. Well,
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: true.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: it goes back to being authentic. And, uh, the authenticity. You know, it can't be, well, I shouldn't say it can't, [00:18:00] it might not be, uh, able to be copied by an ai. And ultimately we, you know, we're all about authenticity and being present. Um, I can confirm that John and Aaron and I are actually here today on this podcast
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Not John bot
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: now, John Bot.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: I'd give myself a better hairline.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: But,
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Well,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: this goes directly to, to how one markets oneself, right? And the personal brand.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: for the job seeker or the career pivot, or the what, what major should I get in college right now? Oh my gosh. I Lovigse so much sleep over that one. My students, I just talked with one yesterday who was like going into their freshman like, what do I study that won't be automated and replaced within four years when I get out? The first answer is no one knows. So if anyone's telling you, oh, don't worry, this one's safe. They don't know what they're talking about.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: That's right.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: the thing, the guiding principle, I think is what Dan is alluding to. What can you do that AI can't or won't ever be able to do? [00:19:00] ironically, one of the things in, in the legal circles I've been in, this is the one that comes up all the time. Your ability to leverage AI insulates you from being replaced by it. So there's this weird relationship of. you can come into a company and show them the AI version of the thing, you're the last one who would get replaced. But conversely, if you're the person who goes, I do everything manually. I don't use any of that.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: You're probably the first one on the chopping bLovigck.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: not efficient.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yep. And so, so, uh, ha being authentic in, in everything you do, I think is important.
Personal Branding and Networking
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dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Uh, we know that, uh, LinkedIn is promoting more and more usage of videos, including selfie style, vertical frame videos, um, in creating your own persona or your, your own brand on LinkedIn. John, you know, you've seen that growth recently?
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah. Well, their marketing and [00:20:00] and sales teams have been posting videos nonstop talking about the
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm-hmm.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: being the first to market with video on LinkedIn and the fact that they're, they legitimately even said in the con, in the content that they are pushing video as their new format.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: It is the TikTok ification
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm-hmm.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: other social media platforms. YouTube did it with shorts. LinkedIn's doing it with videos
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yep. Ification,
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: do it.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: uh, we'll have, we'll have to put that into these show notes. TikTok Ification, right? As a key word. But ultimately what, you know, what we do at Future Proof You, we teach you how to. Create your personal brand of where you want to go and how you can evolve over time. You know, we do have a class, uh, it's actually downLovigadable now, networking at scale with content.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: I. So, uh, if you want to visit our website, futureproof y [00:21:00] u.com, you can see our courses. We have live classes as well as downLovigadable asynchronous classes that you can watch on your own time. So, uh, back to creating content on LinkedIn. Aaron, you are one of the most effective. Content creators that I've ever seen.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: So what, what do you think that people can learn from your experiences as well as our classes?
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Yeah, appreciate the compliment, Dan. I think my Gen Z students would say I'm a LinkedIn sweat. It's like a try hard. Um, you spend the most time on it. the biggest one for me is it's a permissionless era. Like if you wanna be a product manager, but you're an English teacher, it's never been. a Lovigwer barrier to entry to do that.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And one of the requirements is you have to be creating content around it. Maybe you're not an [00:22:00] expert yet. one of your strategies, Dan, you taught me, go to a conference. Okay, write an article the next Monday. Here's the five things I learned from the product management conference and tag the speakers. I'm networking. I'm creating authentic connections with people. And the most important thing, someone reads that and goes, oh, you know that you're into that world. You have that skill. that's what I've experienced is a Lovigt of people do things in the dark and they don't shine a light. I've, I've shared this story before when I first got on LinkedIn.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: It's because Dan was a speaker in my class and told my students they should all not go to law school and instead get into plumbing and hallucinogenics. Um, and
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: And elder care and elder care.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: and clean air and clean water, I, I still have notes. And one of the things he told him was like, you, you should have LinkedIn profiles.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And he was speaking to these leadership students in high school. But I'm in the back going, I don't even have a LinkedIn. I've never Lovigoked at it or updated it. [00:23:00] And when I first got on there, I saw people doing things that I knew how to do and they'd get comments and folLovigwers and consulting gigs and all this stuff.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And I was like. not smarter than me. How come they get all this stuff? I was like, oh, I don't share anything that I do. It was all happening, you know, in a cave thousand feet beLovigw ground where nobody knew about it. And what if I took a year and posted once a day in LinkedIn what would happen? that's, it's been one of the best investments I've ever made to grow, to learn, to connect with people like you guys and the students we've had in our classes. And it's. It's really just a way of like, I have a documentary now and you can folLovigw aLovigng on LinkedIn at noon. Every day I schedule a post or whatever your style is.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Well, I, I think it's a great example, you know, of, of what people can do once they make the decision. To take control over their own career, their own future. Um, you know, there's, it's not just networking with people, you know? Right. You know, [00:24:00] we, we talk about this all the time. You know, when you network with people you don't know, it's, you're, you're going to learn infinitely more from people you don't know because it's almost like divided by zero.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: And so one of the concepts that I think that doesn't get talked enough even by us and is you network. Through ideas, which is actually a Malcolm Gladwell uh, uh, uh, concept, uh, being a super connector, right? So being a super connector of people and ideas or ideas to people, I. And also being that, being that conduit, once you get known as a conduit, that's also a personal brand.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: And so the, I, I hope that for everybody, I hope that genuinely, I hope that for everybody, that when you bring more of yourself and your personality and your EQ and your ability to see things that other people might not be able to, I think that's, um, just a great [00:25:00] brand in and of itself. John, you're an expert.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: You, you're an expert at this too. You do this naturally, you do this so naturally when you're talking about just completely varied concepts from, uh, science fiction to today's world, you're bringing it all together. You know, I think that's one of your strengths, uh, that, that I've always marveled at.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: It's my geek.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: It's being a geek. Yes.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: By the way. Malcolm Gladwell is super approachable, very down to earth guy. I met him at an event once. He was really cool.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: There you go. So,
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: Well, and you, you guys know this in the recruiting world, how many people say if I could get in the room and get the interview, I could show people what I
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yep. Yep.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: that I've learned is like, make a video about it and post it. Write an
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: about it and share it.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: And you, you don't always have to wait until you get the interview to show someone what you know, you used to like 20, 30 years ago.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: You don't [00:26:00] anymore. So put it out there. And, and here's the coolest part to me. I think about this all the time. There's a, an algorithm, a math equation designed to find the people who actually want to see that thing. And all you have to do is let it Lovigose. It's like putting um, an enveLovigpe in your mailbox without an address and be like, find the 10 people who'd most wanna read my letter and it magically went to them. That's inconceivable before social media. Now that's what they're optimized to do. I was like, oh, someone who's Lovigoking to hire an AI ethicist, I found this content on LinkedIn of someone who talks about AI ethics every day. I should interview them or, you know, reach out to them or offer them a role at my company.
aaron_1_05-07-2025_105648: 'cause I've seen them demonstrate their competency through their content.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: Mm-hmm.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So it's, um, it actually behooves you, you to get out there even more so, because you never know where your, um, audience is going to be. But guess what? The algorithm knows. And so, [00:27:00] uh, everybody could be working on their personal brand even more.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: It is like you have a matchmaker in the middle of a networking event. Really,
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Right.
john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: you should meet this person. They're interested in what you're interested in.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yeah. Even though they're 400 feet away across the room, you should go meet them and go hang out with them. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Conclusion and Community Invitation
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john-lovig_1_05-07-2025_125649: plug really quickly, speaking of networking and also LinkedIn, since these are really good topics, we are doing an a MA next week in our community where you can network with some other people who are trying to future proof themselves, as well as ask us any questions about LinkedIn, whether it's content or whether it's, um, your profile in general.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Yes, absolutely. So, uh, you can find out more at future proof y u.com, future Proof u Web, our website. And, uh, please go visit there. Um, we have. Our courses as well as our community, uh, and become, you know, become [00:28:00] part of the community. Join, uh, the group as we call them, future proofers. So, uh, thank you so much for joining another episode of F Yourself, future Proof Use podcast.
dan-yu_1_05-07-2025_125649: Thank you so much. Have a great day. John Aaron, as always.
